Congress still owns the Money. Hal Rogers is wrong.

For those of you that read here you will notice I have not mentioned the asshattery that is currently ongoing in Missouri. It is a conscious choice. I refuse to give that kind of temper tantrum my time. Much like when my children do it, ignore it, stamp it out and refuse to give in to what they want.

Instead I would like to talk about the asshattery that is Washington DC an in particular the ignorant comment brought about by Appropriations Chair Hal Rogers (R- KY). He made it publicly known that Congress did not have the ability to defund Obama’s amnesty since USCIS was self-funded.

This comment showed 2 things. 1.) He is an idiot who doesn’t understand the Constitution and thus should not hold any elected position. 2.) It was the start of the surrender narrative the establishment GOP wanted out there. If the idea was believed that there was nothing Congress could do then the spineless asshats like McConnell and Boehner didn’t have to actually fight for anything. Unfortunately for them we can read and it appears so can the Congressional Research Service.

See during that time called the Constitution Convention in 1781 the founders were pretty explicit about one thing. Since the government would be spending the people’s money, then the people’s house had absolute control over the money. It is very explicit in the Constitution. You see Article 1 Section 7 states:

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Raising revenue. Pay attention to that. You see Mr. Rogers (and not the guy with a neighborhood) seems to think that a part of the government can raise revenue and appropriate it without consent of Congress. Sorry. No.

The founders took it even further to state in Section 8

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts…

See that whole pay the debts thing? Well each employee is a debt that must be paid. Each office supply purchased is a debt that must be paid. Sorry this part is absolute, there is no way around it. Congress has the power to stop any government agency from spending money on anything they don’t want it spent on. All that has to be done is insert language barring the money from being spent.

It would appear that the CRS decided to look at previous court cases and take a glance at that old document and promptly showed Rogers for the uninformed idiot he is.

This is from the letter the CRS responded with. (from townhall)

In light of Congress’s constitutional power over the purse, the Supreme Court has recognized that “Congress may always circumscribe agency discretion to allocate resources by putting restrictions in the operative statutes.” Where Congress has done so, “an agency is not free simply to disregard statutory responsibilities. Therefore, if a statute were enacted which prohibited appropriated funds from being used for some specified purposes, then the relevant funds would be unavailable to be obligated or expended for those purposes.

 

A fee-funded agency or activity typically refers to one in which the amounts appropriated by Congress for that agency or activity are derived from fees collected from some external source. Importantly, amounts received as fees by federal agencies must still be appropriated by Congress to that agency in order to be available for obligation or expenditure by the agency. In some cases, this appropriation is provided through the annual appropriations process. In other instances, it is an appropriation that has been enacted independently of the annual appropriations process (such as a permanent appropriation in an authorizing act). In either case, the funds available to the agency through fee collections would be subject to the same potential restrictions imposed by Congress on the use of its appropriations as any other type of appropriated funds.

That’s right they specifically mention the Constitutional power of the purse bestowed upon Congress and Congress alone. Not some asshat at USCIS. Or even the person at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

So let’s look at the second part. Why would someone who should know this, being as how he is the Chair of the Appropriations Committee? You know the people who actually spend the money.

It’s simple. They are attempting to screw you. They want you to just take them at their word. Oh we are trying doing everything we can, we just don’t have the power to do it. Kinda like that, “we only have 1/3 of the government, wait till we have more.” Well now they have more, and they still have no idea how, or any desire to fight. They will screw us at every chance they get. Stop Letting Them.

Read the Constitution. It’s the only force we need to effect positive change. Of course people have to actually read and learn it. Don’t be that guy. Don’t accept their crap at face value. Call them on it every time.

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4 Responses to Congress still owns the Money. Hal Rogers is wrong.

  1. SGR Team says:

    Good call not mentioning Ferguson. Too sensitive. I wrote about it twice but tried not to pick a side other than referencing inconsistent responses to the facts. And also, GOP definitely has power of the purse.

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    • It’s not the sensitivity of Ferguson that stops me, offending people has never scared me. I refuse because nothing that is happening has anything to do with the grand jury decision. It is about destroying things and throwing a tantrum and I refuse to recognize it.

      And quite frankly my whole purpose here is to get more people to read the Constitution and understand it.

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      • SGR Team says:

        For sure. Offending people isn’t the issue but any message about officer involved shootings gets lost in the racism accusations. But yeah. Love your site.

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      • True while typically I consider the argument won as soon as the racism card is played, it distracts from the learning.

        Thank you for the kind words. Enjoying your site as well. Always nice to see people who understand the quickest way to more freedom is less government.

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